Comments for Colorado Race Timing, Chip Timing Colorado, Colorado Chip Timing, Race Timing Colorado, Denver Race Timing http://coloradoracetiming.com Chip Timing Colorado, Colorado Race Timing, Race Timing Colorado, Denver Race Timing Thu, 01 Dec 2011 00:31:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 Comment on Gun Time or Net Time? by Mike http://coloradoracetiming.com/gun-time-or-net-time/comment-page-1/#comment-55 Mike Thu, 01 Dec 2011 00:31:33 +0000 http://coloradoracetiming.com/?p=727#comment-55 While I can appreciate arguments from both sides, racers “should” position themselves according to ability so that the faster runners are at the front. I realize it is impossible to really determine exactly where you should start but in the case of gun timing, it may force runners who really shouldn’t be at the front to push their way up there. Runners should not have to worry about dodging other runners because they got behind runners who shouldn’t be there. Happens all the time.

If chip timing is used then net time should also be used, unless in the case where prize money is on the line. Runner times should be recorded for the distance of the race, not the extra distance they have to run because they need to start further back.

In the case of kicking it in at the end – great. But remember if you start further back then maybe you should start your kick even sooner.

Just my 2 cents :)

]]> Comment on Gun Time or Net Time? by Jason http://coloradoracetiming.com/gun-time-or-net-time/comment-page-1/#comment-54 Jason Wed, 30 Nov 2011 22:33:45 +0000 http://coloradoracetiming.com/?p=727#comment-54 Just to be clear, the two opposing points are 1. “A race is a race to the finish” versus 2. Use of a tool to mathematically calculate how long it takes a person to run a race?

The other detail worth noting here is that USATF olympic events that start by gun all have the people competing directly with each other,, on the same line/start time.

In the case of the NYC Marathon, Meb for example wouldnt start five minutes after Mutai.

]]> Comment on Gun Time or Net Time? by Percy http://coloradoracetiming.com/gun-time-or-net-time/comment-page-1/#comment-53 Percy Wed, 30 Nov 2011 21:16:35 +0000 http://coloradoracetiming.com/?p=727#comment-53 Well as a runner, I wouldn’t wan tto win an age group award because I was able to outkick someone at the end who started 30 seconds after me because they got trapped by a bunch of walkers. I would always defer to who ran the course fastest.

The race is the whole distance, not the last 100 yards.

]]> Comment on Gun Time or Net Time? by Kenny Foster http://coloradoracetiming.com/gun-time-or-net-time/comment-page-1/#comment-52 Kenny Foster Wed, 30 Nov 2011 20:22:10 +0000 http://coloradoracetiming.com/?p=727#comment-52 Great article and good points. I agree with having the USATF events go off of gun time and that should be rather obvious.
“A race is a race to the finish line and not a time trial.”

With that, I think having the chip timing is also a good tool, especially for large races like this past Thanksgiving Day turkey trot in Colorado Springs. That way somebody who ends up crossing the finish line a minute after the gun goes off can see what his actually pace per mile was if he had a specific goal in mind.

That was a nasty kick by Carl by the way. Completely surprised me.

Great race to all!
Kenny

]]> Comment on Gun Time or Net Time? by Jason http://coloradoracetiming.com/gun-time-or-net-time/comment-page-1/#comment-51 Jason Wed, 30 Nov 2011 19:38:51 +0000 http://coloradoracetiming.com/?p=727#comment-51 I understand the logic, I just support the other view, which I know a /lot/ of people do. Primarily because even the local Turkey Trots now get enough people that you can’t start within say a minute of each other.

If the races are small enough where you and I are on the line together and we can truly race against each other for the entire distance, I agree with gun timing. If I have to start five minutes after you,,, thats not really a fair race.

]]> Comment on Gun Time or Net Time? by admin http://coloradoracetiming.com/gun-time-or-net-time/comment-page-1/#comment-50 admin Wed, 30 Nov 2011 19:23:12 +0000 http://coloradoracetiming.com/?p=727#comment-50 I guess if I had to explain something to a nine year old, saying that the winner is the first person to cross the finish line is a lot easier.

At the really large races; Chicago Marathon, BolderBoulder, et al. they do the overall, say the top three by gun time and age group results by chip time.

A few years ago I was racing the Runnin’ of the Green 7K and worked really hard to catch the guy in front of me, once I caught him he picked it up and I was sprinting all out to beat him to the finish line. They did results by chip time and he beat me, afterwards I simply thought WTF. Sure he had a faster time by a thousandth of a second but there is something to be said for the guy who out kicks his opponent to the finish.

]]> Comment on Gun Time or Net Time? by Jason http://coloradoracetiming.com/gun-time-or-net-time/comment-page-1/#comment-49 Jason Wed, 30 Nov 2011 19:16:32 +0000 http://coloradoracetiming.com/?p=727#comment-49 Although I understand your definitions and I appreciate your clarification on the definitions in this blog post, the point of using the gun time with modern chip technology is ridiculous. Its the equivalent of using chop sticks when there are perfectly good forks available. In grey areas like this, I often revert to asking myself if I had to explain this to my 9 year old,, how solid is this argument? If I told him that he ran a 12 minute per mile (chip time) 5k and his friend ran the same 5k at 12:05mpm (chip time) but the other kid won,,,, that would sound ridiculous to my 9 year old.

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